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Several things:

I dramatically slam my door when arguing with Andy. After about a year of this, I sheepishly asked Andy to please glue the door back together since it started to separate out, and I occasionally pinch my fingers between the wood.

Someone told me: "I was looking to get headshots, and I realized the best headshot I got was from you. So will you take my headshots?" When I first got my D80 I was experimentally snapping away, and he loved my photo of him, and I gave it to him. That was over a year ago, so I said yes... and he was like: "When". I gave him a few dates, and told him that he can have a friend rate of $40 for headshots. And then I didn't hear from him again. That annoys me a little bit. Firstly, we're not close friends, and it's 2 hours of my work. Secondly, $40 for headshots is really cheap, and also a simple email back of: "oh, I can't afford that right now" would've been nice.

I'm going through the wedding pictures from Saturday very slowly. Even though I create presets that I apply for pictures shot in the same place/angle, during a wedding there's lots of movement and light changes. So I'm tweaking each photo. At 900 pictures, 5 mins average, we're looking at 75 hours of post processing. That's a bit ridiculous. I've fired up photoshop for a few things like removing a powerbox behind the bride. And removing manhole covers. Andy says I'm obsessing. It's true. I need to not do so much editting. It's okay right now since I don't have that much weddings, but I need to figure out how to edit less.

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__bin
Oct. 5th, 2010 05:11 pm (UTC)
I realized after I posted my thingie that if you're using Lightroom you've probably got more batch-processing power than I realized. I don't even have Lightroom yet! I just can't bring myself to learn a new program. *sigh*

But anyway. You probably don't have to tweak each photo. For the wedding that I shot last weekend I applied batch adjustments to groups of about 10 at a time, and out of those groups of 10 I would open up one or two in Photoshop to fine-tune some stuff. Then again, mine were only the "second shooter" shots, so they weren't quite as crucial.
sylke
Oct. 5th, 2010 05:36 pm (UTC)
OMG you're missing out. What are you currently using if you don't mind my asking?

Lightroom is exactly what you would expect to get if the makers of Photoshop talked to a bunch of photographers and asked, "What do you do most often, and how can we write a program that helps you do that faster and more efficiently?" I highly recommend trying the 30 day free trial, just play around with it and see how you like it! :)
ripresa
Oct. 5th, 2010 06:25 pm (UTC)
lightroom or aperture is pretty crucial for most photographers. I really really like lightroom. I do most of my edits there, and only go to photoshop for liquefy or something serious.

Did you get my flare photo?...
__bin
Oct. 5th, 2010 06:41 pm (UTC)
I tried out Aperture and I didn't like it. I should try Lightroom at some point, especially since I get a discount through the school I work at. But I learned about photography in 2005 and I guess that I'm really stuck in my ways. I'm pretty content with the post-processing workflow that I currently have in Bridge/Photoshop. It's quick and easy. But yeah. Maybe not so current. :)

I also use Capture One, which is kind of like Lightroom I think.
__bin
Oct. 5th, 2010 06:43 pm (UTC)
And yeah, I got your flare photo! I haven't been able to sit down and focus yet today, but I'll try to see what I can do with it tomorrow. When do you want to give the photos to the client?
ripresa
Oct. 5th, 2010 07:04 pm (UTC)
Probably in two weeks for client delivery.

Thank you so much!!!

As for LR, it even has an adjustment brush so you can just brush a mask on and adjust that. The problem is then I spend even more time doing fine-tune editing.
__bin
Oct. 5th, 2010 07:08 pm (UTC)
See, this is what I don't get about Lightroom. The adjustment brush sounds cool, but how is that different than creating an adjustment layer in Photoshop and using a layer mask on it? I feel like I'd just be learning a different way to do the same stuff. But I guess I shouldn't knock it until I try it.
ripresa
Oct. 5th, 2010 07:41 pm (UTC)
It's definitely a subset of photoshop, but it's kinda like a faster way to do things. For ex, you don't have to create an adjustment layer, just brush on her wedding dress, and move the exposure slider down, then you move on.

Also, it has all the things that a photog need like temperature, tint, exposure, etc, all there. Along with the histogram. I also use the tone curve a lot, to make it an S curve. Most people end up using LR as their main editting, and photoshop for surgical fine tuning. But I'm also not a photoshop expert.
__bin
Oct. 6th, 2010 02:46 pm (UTC)
Okay, you're selling me on this now. I'm going to download the trial version. :)
ripresa
Oct. 6th, 2010 04:13 pm (UTC)
Hahah, it's like photoshop-lite for camera people.

I'm still interested in your sunflare tutorial!
I think for more hardcore stuff, like making the bride skinnier, you still need photoshop.
sylke
Oct. 5th, 2010 05:15 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I'm inclined to agree with Andy. :)

If you send me your email (carson@carsongrey.com), I'll send over a preset for you to see if you like it. It does a lot of auto correcting, it's a LR preset, it's easy-peasy to back out if you don't like it, but it might help speed things along. You're into antiquing these days? I've got a couple vintagey presets as well I can send along.

Also, I'd suggest saving photoshop edits for the really good shots if you aren't already doing that. When I'm editing a wedding, I'll have 50 or so highlights, and those are the only ones that I even consider taking into photoshop. If a bride wants to order a print from me, then I'll take those 5 minutes to remove light switches and blemishes, liquify an arm or a waist, run through my noise eliminators, and so on. But otherwise the image remains mostly as shot and my edits don't go past what I can do in Lightroom. Rotate, crop, color, exposure, vignette, etc.

$40 sounds quite reasonable for head shots. I'll do a sitting or two free for friends (total, not per friend) when I'm trying something I haven't done before (example, I haven't done a maternity session before, anyone wanting one would get for free), but once you have experience and don't need the portfolio work, definitely charge. That's the only way your work gets appreciated. I can't count how many emails I've received that've said, "We love your work! We're getting married on X date. Can you send us some more information about your availability and packages?" So I do, even if just to give them a starting price, and then never hear from them again. Guess they didn't love my work *that* much, yaknow? ;)
ripresa
Oct. 5th, 2010 06:24 pm (UTC)
Sent you my email. I'm curious about your presets.

I've really good presets too, I bought the TRA lightroom presets, and I've figured out the skin tone adjustment for nikon camera. But while I can apply that same preset to a photo from the same angle, I do seem to light to tweak each one further. It is possible that I just need to not obsess.

Yeah, I only photoshop the really good shots too. Or the ones that are important that I messed up :/

I totally agree that at some point, you gotta start being paid.
zuleikhajami
Oct. 5th, 2010 07:06 pm (UTC)
I'd guess that you do are just needlessly obsessing. When we got out wedding prints, our photographer sent us prints of all the photos so that we could pick the 50 shots that would go into the album. She said she did some basic work on the prints, but she didn't do any real editing until we picked the album pictures. We got the prints and were just like, "what else does she need to do?" The prints looked perfect to us. And honestly, I can't tell the difference between those ones and the ones in the album that she did the more time consuming editing to.
ripresa
Oct. 5th, 2010 07:42 pm (UTC)
Hah. This is the problem with being an OCD geek, I just kinda go crazy on it.

I think I'll set like this weekend as the end time for editting, like I should be done by then for all the general edits.
(Anonymous)
Oct. 5th, 2010 09:45 pm (UTC)
Powerbox
I want to see a before and after shot of the powerbox to see what you mean by photoshopping it out? Maybe in person if you don't want to share on the web :)
-ullearn
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